whats stronger?

SpudBlaster15 · Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:08 am

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cras nec placerat erat. Vivamus dapibus egestas nunc, at eleifend neque. Suspendisse potenti. Sed dictum lacus eu nisl pretium vehicula. Ut faucibus hendrerit nisi. Integer ultricies orci eu ultrices malesuada. Fusce id mauris risus. Suspendisse finibus ligula et nisl rutrum efficitur. Vestibulum posuere erat pellentesque ornare venenatis. Integer commodo fermentum tortor in pharetra. Proin scelerisque consectetur posuere. Vestibulum molestie augue ac nibh feugiat scelerisque. Sed aliquet a nunc in mattis.

chaos · Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:29 am

hmm ok it seems i may have been misguided by the site i use and still believe the pressure ratings from my site are correct: http://www.swagelok.com/downloads/webca ... 01-107.PDF
but i have never seen that sized pipe before may i please get the site off you?

peace
chaos

rna_duelers · Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:33 am

And isnt Iron even harder then carbon steel? But can be shaterd easily and has very good corrosion resistance(why its used in drains and sewer covers).Or am I miss informed on the matter?

chaos · Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:41 am

yer we talkin bout pressure ratings, but thats ok

SpudBlaster15 · Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:41 am

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cras nec placerat erat. Vivamus dapibus egestas nunc, at eleifend neque. Suspendisse potenti. Sed dictum lacus eu nisl pretium vehicula. Ut faucibus hendrerit nisi. Integer ultricies orci eu ultrices malesuada. Fusce id mauris risus. Suspendisse finibus ligula et nisl rutrum efficitur. Vestibulum posuere erat pellentesque ornare venenatis. Integer commodo fermentum tortor in pharetra. Proin scelerisque consectetur posuere. Vestibulum molestie augue ac nibh feugiat scelerisque. Sed aliquet a nunc in mattis.

chaos · Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:49 am

Im sorry but i dont think that is true. and from evidence (which you have none of) i think that i am right. i do know that in a larger scale carbon steel to a high grade, such as hydraulic tube and such do hold higher pressures but you have to take into consoderation that we are only talkin to a maximum of a wall thickness of 3- 4 mm max

the following sites support this

http://www.atlasmetals.com.au/files/ss_ ... _chart.pdf

http://www.sspfittings.com/products/pre ... p?brand=42

http://www.swagelok.com/downloads/webca ... 01-107.PDF

could i please see your evidence towards this topic so far i only have your word on it

peace
chaos

SpudBlaster15 · Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:18 am

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cras nec placerat erat. Vivamus dapibus egestas nunc, at eleifend neque. Suspendisse potenti. Sed dictum lacus eu nisl pretium vehicula. Ut faucibus hendrerit nisi. Integer ultricies orci eu ultrices malesuada. Fusce id mauris risus. Suspendisse finibus ligula et nisl rutrum efficitur. Vestibulum posuere erat pellentesque ornare venenatis. Integer commodo fermentum tortor in pharetra. Proin scelerisque consectetur posuere. Vestibulum molestie augue ac nibh feugiat scelerisque. Sed aliquet a nunc in mattis.

chaos · Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:28 am

and on that exact same site you used for for carbon steel:

http://www.matweb.com/search/SpecificMa ... m=MMEDIC05

Medical grade Stainless (316) = Tensile Strength, Ultimate: 1280 MPa 186000 psi

Carbon steel = Tensile Strength, Ultimate 420 MPa 60900 psi

SpudBlaster15 · Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:43 am

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cras nec placerat erat. Vivamus dapibus egestas nunc, at eleifend neque. Suspendisse potenti. Sed dictum lacus eu nisl pretium vehicula. Ut faucibus hendrerit nisi. Integer ultricies orci eu ultrices malesuada. Fusce id mauris risus. Suspendisse finibus ligula et nisl rutrum efficitur. Vestibulum posuere erat pellentesque ornare venenatis. Integer commodo fermentum tortor in pharetra. Proin scelerisque consectetur posuere. Vestibulum molestie augue ac nibh feugiat scelerisque. Sed aliquet a nunc in mattis.

chaos · Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:02 am

i know soz about that

ok so carbon steel is harder/stronger in a larger form but as for Tube i believe stainless is stronger for pressure ratings, also it wont rust, is less magnetic (that doesnt realy matter) and looks way better

as for carbon steel tubing it is not as strong in comparison to wall thickness and diameter of stainless tube 2"OD x .109 and similar.

i Agree with you that high grade carbon steel is a stronger metal as far as structures, bolts ect... go.

conclusion. Yes/No?

peace
chaos

SpudBlaster15 · Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:20 am

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Cras nec placerat erat. Vivamus dapibus egestas nunc, at eleifend neque. Suspendisse potenti. Sed dictum lacus eu nisl pretium vehicula. Ut faucibus hendrerit nisi. Integer ultricies orci eu ultrices malesuada. Fusce id mauris risus. Suspendisse finibus ligula et nisl rutrum efficitur. Vestibulum posuere erat pellentesque ornare venenatis. Integer commodo fermentum tortor in pharetra. Proin scelerisque consectetur posuere. Vestibulum molestie augue ac nibh feugiat scelerisque. Sed aliquet a nunc in mattis.

Hotwired · Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:07 am

Hey a whole page to you two yammering.

Both can easily accomodate spudgun pressures, who gives a flying spud over which has the highest tensile strength in Kpsi. Trae went for black steel which is neither high carbon or stainless.

Incidentally:

rna_duelers wrote:And isnt Iron even harder then carbon steel? But can be shaterd easily and has very good corrosion resistance(why its used in drains and sewer covers).Or am I miss informed on the matter?

That would be cast iron which is iron with a very high carbon content and is completely naff in tension (see Tay Bridge) and so would be bad for pressure. It is quite hard though.

Recruit · Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:37 pm

Ok to prove that to one and all at one stainless steel knife or whatevr you want and High carbon steel knife or what ever of the same size as the stainless. Try to bend one then the other I bend my moms Stainless streel knives all the time but I cant bend a High carbon steel knife, it never budges.

zeigs spud · Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:00 pm

SpudBlaster15 wrote:
chaos wrote:hmm ok it seems i may have been misguided by the site i use and still believe the pressure ratings from my site are correct: http://www.swagelok.com/downloads/webca ... 01-107.PDF
but i have never seen that sized pipe before may i please get the site off you?

peace
chaos
The pipe size was used simply for comparison, I have no idea whether or not such a size exists. However, it effectively illustrates my point. Pipe made from good quality carbon steel will hold considerably more pressure than will pipe made from common stainless steel alloys.

yeah true.
P.S.-Trivium owns!!!

zeigs spud · Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:01 pm

SpudBlaster15 wrote:
chaos wrote:hmm ok it seems i may have been misguided by the site i use and still believe the pressure ratings from my site are correct: http://www.swagelok.com/downloads/webca ... 01-107.PDF
but i have never seen that sized pipe before may i please get the site off you?

peace
chaos
The pipe size was used simply for comparison, I have no idea whether or not such a size exists. However, it effectively illustrates my point. Pipe made from good quality carbon steel will hold considerably more pressure than will pipe made from common stainless steel alloys.

yeah true.
P.S.-Trivium owns!!!

whats stronger?

Create an account or sign in to join the discussion

Create an account

Sign in

Login • Register