Automatic Hammer Valve IDEA

[Antonio]

sorry for double post.
Check this out, its a stacked tube just like a spyder paintball gun but then for bb gun balls! This is what I always wanted to make. I already sent this guy an email on the specs but he doesnt reply.
[Youtube][/Youtube]

[Lentamentalisk]

you don't buy coils, you coil them... They are just coils of magnet wire, which can be bought at any self respecting radio shack or electronics store. For a how-to on coiling, search coil guns, which are essentially non-returning solenoids.

[VH_man]

well, i just construced my shock pump, so this gun might actually be construced and have good preformance



however, i think i might end up constructing my own solenoid for this gun, because mcmaster does not have any "push" solenoids that will really give the "oomph" i want.

@JSR: I just looked at the page you sent me, and i think i might make the gun use some kind of capacitor discharge system like in that gun. Think a Camera Flash Capacitor will work? if you shove a good 12 volts through one of those camera flash bulbs the thing charges in less than halph a second.

[Lentamentalisk]

if you shove a good 12 volts through one of those camera flash bulbs the thing charges in less than half a second.

well that doesn't have much to do with the 12v (I know it does, shut up) it has more to do with the overall current, ie: volts times amps, but still that is quite a good recharge rate.

[VH_man]

if i hook it up to some kind of ghetto triggering system i think i might be able to get the "clack clack clack" i need to make this thing shoot like crazy.

[jackssmirkingrevenge]

@JSR: I just looked at the page you sent me, and i think i might make the gun use some kind of capacitor discharge system like in that gun. Think a Camera Flash Capacitor will work? if you shove a good 12 volts through one of those camera flash bulbs the thing charges in less than halph a second.

The point of using the capacitor in the case of those airguns is that the solenoid is given a specific impulse of electricity, allowing to release just enough air when it strikes the valve to fire the projectile. In our case it might be an easy way of delivering a large charge from a limited setup, interesting idea

[VH_man]

i just found a 43 OZ force push solenoid with a 1 inch stroke that can run off of 12 Volts DC off of McMaster........ i think that will do the job.

I will be purhcasing this soon, along with a 0-600 PSI guage for my New shock pump.

[SNDM]

Im sorry, but does anyone have any paint pictures which could help explain this concept.
I would really like to understand this, but I just cant see how it works.

Thanks

(And sorry if this is a necro, I used the search feature when trying to find out how to Hammer valve worked.)

[Antonio]

Drozd bb gun:
http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/drozd-t ... 12492.html



The blue part is the solenoid

[Mr.Sandman]

i didnt know drozds had a rifled barrel wouldnt that really mess up a gun if it has a rifled barrel and you use bbs? what size barrel are you using? btw you are doing really well with automatics that arent using vortex blocks great proto

[Antonio]

yeah I think the drozd uses lead balls, so yeah plastic ones could clog ur barrel. I am not sure what size> I dont have a drozd myself. The only gunz I have are the ones I built myself. Thnx> yeah poppet valves are very good for efficiency, btw the animation isnt mine.

[VH_man]

where exactly is the air flowing through in that valve......

[Antonio]

part 11 is where the co2 capsul goes>>

the moving part is the valve. The air flows through the valve stem>>

[VH_man]

ahh...... i see now....... hmmm. i think i could re-create that.........

[SEAKING9006]

.... You'd be better off with a blow forward valve. I'm looking at springs on McMaster right now, in fact.