BTB sawed-off mark II

[flamerz14]

damn. You just can't make the same gun over and over but even smexier can't you BTB?

[jackssmirkingrevenge]

even smexier

Perhaps a thong and sombrero

by the way your signature pic is missing an "h"



...aside from being far too big

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[Brian the brain]

damn. You just can't make the same gun over and over but even smexier can't you BTB?

Yes I can if I sell them

Where did you get that sleek QEV?

You can reach them by pm-ing...ME 8)

Damage shots will have to come from the buyers.I want to keep this thing new and clean.

[POLAND_SPUD]

you are really charging them 200 euro for each ?? obviosly they don't know how much does it cost to make one....

is it legal for you to sell them ? I'd try selling spudguns myself but in poland you can only sell airguns that are below 16 J....

oh come on BTB, respectable gunsmiths tes his products before selling them

[Brian the brain]

QEV´s are not available in holland, only to professionals.I had to start a business to get them

It costs me around 70 euro´s .It costs me about 1,5 hours to get is all together.I have to MAKE a fitting from scratch, adapt a fitting, shape the ballvalve handle, and pressure test the gun.

19% goes to tax, and half of the remaining profit goes to tax in the form of INCOME tax...HALF!

I sell them for 150 to a middleman who knows these guys..

I do not charge them too much
in fact I hardly make a profit, and with a local plumbers hourly rate, you could consider this charity.
I know everything in Poland is a lot cheaper, but wages are lower as well.
Over here, people can afford this and are not bad off.

[jackssmirkingrevenge]

19% goes to tax, and half of the remaining profit goes to tax in the form of INCOME tax...HALF!

god you're an honest bloke

[Brian the brain]

Now that I´m official, I´m kinda bound to this.

I feel I should be making more profit than the freaking government, but appearently they like the fact they make more than me on what I do...

That is probably why it's legal.

Silly I have to charge an extra 20 for every 10 I want.

Under the counter would be hard since they can check my buys

[jackssmirkingrevenge]

again, I'm surprised at you honesty... ah well

[Brian the brain]

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again, I'm surprised at you honesty... ah well

and I´m pretty too!!

[POLAND_SPUD]

btb which fitting you made from the scratch, the one joined with the barrel ?

well I suppose that wages are lower but on the other hand it won't cost 70 euro to make one in poland... I suppose that it would be about 30 - 35 euro max for parts.
I don't get it.. why you always say that QEVs can be bought only by professionals ? what do you mean by that?


it is just a suggestion you know but without all those taxes you would make a nice profit

[Ragnarok]

I believe Ragnarok used them at 35 bar right??

No, I've not gone past 22 bar yet. I know they have been used at 28 bar, and I'm planning on trying for 30 bar soon (if I can fix the leak I created earlier trying to upgrade HEAL...).

They have also been (allegedly) tested to around about 60 bar, with unregged CO2 by al-xg though. Not sure I'd be happy about trying that myself though.

[OuchProgramme]

Ooo...

If i may ask, what shotgun ammo are you going propel?

Is it just a buckshot? Or is it single?

[POLAND_SPUD]

every weekend I fire at least 20 shots with my QEV gun at 350 psi .... and it works fine

[al-xg]

I've shot 58bar HPA through my 3/4" QEV 'bout 30 times this weekend its still fine...

[POLAND_SPUD]

wow al-xg !! I am impressed care to post some vids of your gun at those pressure?